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Human Rights Group Plans Sit-In at Controversial Cobb Bar

One human rights activist wants to hold a sit-in at Mulligan's Food and Spirits, which has long been known for its controversial and some say "racist" signs.

 

Gerald Rose, the leader of the human rights group that planned a press conference at a Marietta bar known for its controversial signs, is now planning a sit-in at the bar on Sept. 22 at 3 p.m.

Mulligan's Food & Spirits has been known to have signs with racial slurs referring to Hispanic people and other groups. The former bar owner, Mike Norman, made national headlines when he sold T-shirts depicting then presidential nominee Barack Obama as the monkey Curious George.

Rose wrote in an email to Patch:

"...they have left comments on our New Order facebook fan page saying things about the racist sign and other things..at this point its not about Obama its about disrespecting African-Americans as a whole.."

A man named Justin Roberts responded to a post on the New Order National Human Rights Facebook page about the sit-in:

"Come on down, we'd love to have you! We make everyone feel at home at mulligans... I'll buy your first drink. And if y'all wanna eat, the cook (that's African American),cooks the best hamburgers and fries you've ever had! I'd be happy to buy you a burger too!!"

What do you think about the planned sit-in? Do you plan to participate? Tell us below in the comments.

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Pam J

1:09 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012

People and groups have gone after this family for years and nothing has changed. In my opinion, just ignore it.

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Hard

1:39 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012

I fully support Mulligan's right to free speech and cold beer. These protesting fools that hurl the accusation of racism seem to be the ones that are the least tolerant of others. I've almost gotten to the point where I pity the misguided fools on the left but I do tolerate them because, after all, this is America, where we still have the right, for now at least, to speak our mind. Fried chicken isn't racist. I eat it once a week. Neither is a watermelon, I had one yesterday. Neither is Curious George. I read the story to my child. The victim/entitlement mentality, encouraged by a political party to seek votes, has down more to keep minorities on the plantation, than any sign ever will.

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Chemdude

9:06 am on Friday, September 14, 2012

@ Hard - I agree with you 100%. Why do we have to be so "PC" all the time? I don't know the owner of Mulligans but I bet he likes baseball, apple pie, and Chevrolet! Free speech is the cornerstone of our society. While we may not agree with one another we need to respect each other's views. If you don't like what he has to say then don't eat there. End of story.

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Rich "The Equalizer" Pellegrino

9:19 am on Friday, September 14, 2012

Ha Hard....spoken as a true "white is right man". You support Mulligans right to free speech but not the "protesting fools".---how American of you! Mulligans' signs are a constant protest in tne most childish, schoolyard bully way of cowardly put -downs, which is the way most bullies, especially white ones, act--cowardly! These are the same cowards who threaten me as a white traitor by drawing slurs on my car, killng my dog, and sending threatening packages. These are who should be pitied,and I do--for only those who hate themselves have to hate others. You don't have a clue about racism or prejudice or history, because you have never experienced it , so you speak only out of arrogant ignorance, just as the owners and patrons of Mulligans's do. Grow up...this is a new America where there will not be a white majority, in my lifetime--which is the true destiny of America as a melting pot of all cultures and races.

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Hard

9:56 am on Friday, September 14, 2012

Richard- try to comprehend what I wrote. I support Mulligan's putting words on a sign and I tolerate the protestors because they have that right. These are simple principles to understand if you have an open mind. If someone did damage your car, kill your dog and threaten you, then you have a legal issue but you don't have to let it cloud your thinking. There are many folks with an investment in keeping racism alive and keeping people divided and nearly all of them are on the left side of the political spectrum. All of this talk about hate and hate speech is a prime example of that. You can ignore words on a sign, you can protest words on a sign or feel however you like about words on a sign but every child knows the old "words will never hurt me" adage. There are far bigger problems that affect minority communities and until they break free of the victimhood mentality, they will not be capable of addressing them. I am encouraged that some are waking up to that fact as seen in C L Bryant's movie Runaway Slave.

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Miss Philly

11:49 am on Friday, September 14, 2012

Good comment. I'm so over being PC. And, being PC, usually is not both sided. It's ok for some to say things, and not others. Hmmmm.....

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Genghis Khan

1:04 pm on Thursday, September 20, 2012

I've never been to Mulgan's, but I plan to go and support them now! These 'groups" need to be marginalized. Is tht a code word? maybe!

Oscar G.

3:03 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012

As long as the community continues to tolerate what is so obviously hatred directed at the President, or bigotry in it's many forms being spewed from their marquee at which ever group they're unhappy with, these poor examples of society will continue to infect Cobb County with their flavor of hate.

The problem, as I see it, isn't as much in that their signage is bigoted and hate-filled, most intelligent people would agree that they are in fact spouting thinly veiled prejudice, but the decent, moral people of Cobb County are simply APATHETIC.

If enough pressure were put on these sisters, or even the father in his day, to take these wretched signs down, or face significant (financial) reprecussions, the signs would come down.

There isn't a business out there today that is opened just to LOSE money!

If there were a significant loss of revenue, that'd show them that Cobb County is NOT full of small minded, hate filled, bigots, racists, sexists, homophobes, what have you.

Unfortunately, what this says to ME is that because they've not been forced to change their tune, or out of business, that there are all those kinds of people in Cobb County who knowingly, willfully, and some even happily, support Mulligan's kind of hatred.

First Amendment?
SURE!
Speak your mind!
Just don't expect that those who disagree won't speak right back!

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Genghis Khan

1:12 pm on Thursday, September 20, 2012

" Cobb County is NOT full of small minded, hate filled, bigots, racists, sexists, homophobes, what have you."

In the same way that Atlanta is not full of do-nothing welfare recipients, gang-bangers and drug dealers? If you actually live in Cobb County, you sound unhappy here. Perhaps Fulton or DeKalb would fit your lifestyle better.

Observer

3:25 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012

"Gerald Rose, the leader of the human rights group that planned a press conference at a Marietta bar known for its controversial signs, is now planning a sit-in at the bar on Sept. 22 at 3 p.m."

If they are ordering food and not causing a disruption by interfering with business, then good and more power to them. But if they are causing a disruption on private property and interfering with the operation of the business then I expect the police to eject them and/or jail them.

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Ali50

8:36 pm on Saturday, September 15, 2012

Observer,
You write very well. It is such a rare pleasure to read well-written commentary, especially on controversial issues. And isn't it amazing that some of these commentators believe that "hate speech" is illegal in the US? I find that ignorance of the law frightening. Perhaps they are French and just confused.

Kenneth

4:03 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012

Seriously! Just give the man his freedom to be what he wants. Have you ever driven through east point? There is some major Anti-white stuff down there, but I respect their opinion. Just let him sell his burgers and beer to the patrons who wish to pay him. If you don't like it don't go.

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Nancy Wallace

4:04 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012

While I won't deny it is an American's right to protest, I think the "sit-in" was okay in the 70's but not now. It seems to me everyone keeps demanding their right to free speech, but if someone says something you (or your group) don't like then it's racist or hateful or whatever. If you don't agree with what an establishment puts on their sign (on their property) don't frequent that establishment. Just keep walking/driving right on by. It's simple, it's easy and nobody gets hurt!

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Amy Delacroix

5:59 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012

In the 1950s through the 1970s those who "sat in" were usually arrested. It was never "OK." It was just a tactic for drawing attention to a situation. So, if they just come to "sit in" they should expect to go to jail.

Oscar G.

5:31 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012

You guys seem to be missing the bigger picture here.
(Oh and the "HE" you refered to is actually dead and his two daughters run the place now.)
What this means is that even tho they may have the RIGHT to say whatever hatefilled thing comes to mind, it doesn't necessarily mean that the local community agrees.

If, however, the local community does not pressure the owner to change his (public) tune, then, by default, they support Mulligan's bigoted POV.

Making the whole area appear to be, for lack of better terminology, ignorant bigots.

And it also opens the door for others to display a more blatent bigotry because the way has already been paved.

At what point does the community step up and tell a local business that Enough is Enough?

I'd ask you all the imagine that the roles were reversed and it was a man of color who'd been putting up thinly veiled, anti-white rhetoric for the last 20 years.

Tell me then how you'd just "keep driving right on by." I don't see THAT happening.

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Observer

5:45 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012

You would be wrong. If it was a black person or asian or flying purple people eater that had erected the sign I would still support their right to free speech and to be offensive as long as they are not breaking the law.

"At what point does the local community step-up and tell a local business that Enough is Enough?

When that business breaks the law. If the were refusing to serve someone because of their ethnicity then I would wholeheartedly support their business license being pulled but not until then. Why? because we are a nation of laws and not a mob that make arbitrary decisions on what is legal based upon the emotions of the moment. To do else is to invite anarchy.

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Oscar G.

11:30 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012

No, actually in this case it would be You that's incorrect.
Inviting "anarchy?" Really? Hyperbolic much?

What I wrote, if you'd bothered to read it in it's entirety, is that they have the Right to freedom of speech.

But We as a society DO set community standards.

For example, TECHNICALLY, a woman in a bikini on a business sign isn't against the law. Put her in a thong bikini and 2 cocktail napkins as a top, with almost nothing left to the imagination, and that's a whole different ballgame.

Illegal? Probably not. Within the business' right to use? Probably.
Something you want to see, or your children to see every time you pass by?
Nope. And the community gets to have a say in that sort of advertisement.
Even tho it's not "technically" illegal, the community has a set of standards, and that doesn't fit.

Why should hate speech be any different?

Unless, that community is in fact, full of HATE.
Which is sounding more and more like the case, everytime someone defends Mulligans and their sign(s).

Even if they're not technically breaking any law, they are disrespecting the very neighborhood they're supposedly there to do business with. I hardly think that community standards are "arbitrary decisions" and I wouldn't dream of being as dimissive as saying that a stance against this sign should be classified as "the emotions of the moment."

Now you're just being disrespectful of those who've thought and fought hard against discrimination.

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Observer

12:49 am on Friday, September 14, 2012

Yes anarchy. When the rule of law isn't followed and instead the judgement of the mob is substituted.

Freedom of speech is not arbitrary and is not abridged by local community standards.

Yet again, there is not a right to not be offended, and that is what you are proposing, that a fundamental right be set aside because of your sensibilities.

Fortunately we are a republic where some rights, though seemingly inconvenient to others, are protected, because without them all of our lives would be diminished.

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Brian

2:41 am on Friday, September 14, 2012

Observer: Keep in mind that the rule of law is based on "common law", not enforced dictates.

Furthermore, that sign borders on hate speech, which IS against the law.

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Observer

8:30 am on Friday, September 14, 2012

Brian,

Hate speech is not against the law. I don't know where you got the idea that it is. Hate speech is in fact protected and would only not be protected if it fell into the category of defamation or incitement to riot or fighting words. While some might find the sign repulsive, until it meets the legal requirement as determined by a court of law, not by a subset of offended citizens, as not protected speech, then it must be allowed and the rights of the individuals to post those words must be respected.

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milo o'toole

5:40 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

"'d ask you all the imagine that the roles were reversed and it was a man of color who'd been putting up thinly veiled, anti-white rhetoric for the last 20 years."

You mean like Reverend Wright?

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Genghis Khan

1:38 pm on Thursday, September 20, 2012

I'm sure that some in the local community don't agree, but I don't see their business suffering from lack of customers. When a small group of activists tries to close down a business supported by a larger group, bad things happen. the Left is such a champion of democracy, and yet they see nothing wrong with tiny minorities trying to close down businesses enjoyed by many. That just isn't healthy.

Linda Southard

9:10 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012

I agree to Mulligan's right to free speech. If you don't like it, don't go there. You're trying to do the same the the radical Muslims are doing everywhere...destroy them because you don't believe the same as they do. It's YOU people who are the bigots and haters. Just leave other people alone if you don't like what they have to say!!
I am really weary of the reverse discrimination and bigotry that has become the mantra of the Left.

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Professional

10:09 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012

I was very offended when I walked pass the sign on my way to church with my children. To avoid it, I started driving a different route. Because of that sign I could no longer "enjoy" a Sunday morning walk to church. My children did not need to be exposed to that ignorance. No one should be. If the beer and burgers are so good, then that's what should be displayed on the sign! But don't worry, I still wouldn't eat there because the place looks like a hole in the wall anyhow.

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Miss Philly

11:51 am on Friday, September 14, 2012

Then have them look down and look for pennies when you walk by!

James Bell

10:19 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012

Republicans are represented by an elephant and the Dems by a donkey. Not exactly flattering icons.

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Professional

10:26 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012

Oh I'm personally not in total agreement about a sit-in. I prefer not to contribute a dime of my hard earned money to this establishment. What we should do is first of all verify the city codes and make sure they are abiding by all laws. Laws from the sign meeting requirements to the parking lot having the appropriate space available to the kitchen being cleaned properly. We need to continue to display this restaurant as being offensive. If we have to walk the outside day after day, so be it! Last but not least, yet should be first, we must pray. Prayer changes everything.

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Delta Beal

10:30 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012

Yes, the sign is racist & No, I won't be eating there.

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Kristen Sudduth

7:07 am on Friday, September 14, 2012

Clearly we are out of the loop on this one. I was reading the patch this morning and my husband replies "we have a controversial bar near us?".

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Robert C. Moore, Sr.

8:26 am on Friday, September 14, 2012

There are indeed some establishments in our culture that are breeding grounds for hatred, attempting to use the right of "free speech." In my opinion, this establishment possibly serves as an incubator for hate crimes, and this type of establishment should be boycotted. It's one thing for a business owner to express his religious convictions about traditional marriage, it's another thing for a business to constantly antagonize and say hateful statements about other races that are different from him.

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Genghis Khan

1:42 pm on Thursday, September 20, 2012

It's still legal, Doc. You can try to change the law, which will result in hideous consequences, or you can shake your head and ignore it. If you think someone's hurt feelings is more important than the constitution, you have a rocky future ahead.

Mark A. Smith

8:44 am on Friday, September 14, 2012

Maybe there should be an attack on the local emabassy...

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Mark A. Smith

8:47 am on Friday, September 14, 2012

There are too many thin skinned folks running around looking for politicall correctness in everything. Sure the signs are of bad taste, but not a crime.

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Miss Philly

11:47 am on Friday, September 14, 2012

Yes, everyone is too thin skinned in these times. Personally, I have much bigger issues to deal with. People should quit being so uber-sensitive, there's something out there that offends somebody. Unless it involves physical harm, etc. get over yourselves. Watch the Comedy channel and listen to African-American comics beratting white people all the time. So what, it's actually quite funny, and accurate most times. Loosen up America ~ good grief!

V

9:42 am on Friday, September 14, 2012

Oh get over it! Freedom of speech! If you don't like it don't eat there. I agree with Mark to many thin skin folks looking for something to complain about. If you want to make the world better go volunteer some place, make a difference instead of harrasing this place of business with a sit in.

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Gerry Gerbil

9:54 am on Friday, September 14, 2012

Until now, I had never heard of Mulligan's. Sounds like a place I would like. Good food, beer, and a gathering of like minded people.
Like minded not in that they are racist, but believers in the fight of free speech. We are in a fight to maintain our first amendment right to free speech, even if it offends a few.
We fight PC, the liberal government, a few religions, and ignorance of the minority .

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Pam J

10:14 am on Friday, September 14, 2012

Thinking back over all the signs I've seen at that place, they are just shy of actually being racists to the point that they could be considered illegal. You sometimes have to think about them before you come up with a meaning behind the sign. It disturbs me that the current sign about fried chicken and collard greens has garnered this much attention. Like I said somewhere else, I read a story recently about some people who got to tour the White House, and they said they smelled what seemed like fried chicken when they were in a certain part of the house. Nothing unusual about people frying chicken. Granted, this bar has a history of controversial signs, but not this one. There are a lot of people who don't like our President, and these people just put their thoughts on a sign. Not much different than posting comments on these stories. And, as soon as we elected a black President, all kinds of people came out of the woodwork. If you said you didn't like him, you were labeled a racist. And the bar has mostly targeted the Hispanic population, probably because of the Hispanic businesses that popped up all around them. Where were all of you when those signs were up?

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Observer

10:22 am on Friday, September 14, 2012

Why must it be pointed out, ad infinitum, that making racist statements is not illegal nor prosecutable.

Where have people suddenly come up with this idea? There is no support in case law for this view.

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Hard

10:55 am on Friday, September 14, 2012

Pam
Racism isn't illegal.

C. Vinson

11:44 am on Friday, September 14, 2012

I think a better use of Rose's time would be to talk to the owners and try to help them understand why what they post is offensive. Let's face it, why would a sit-in work when the people they offend probably don't patronize the place? It would be different if they were trying to physically keep certain people from eating there. That's not the case. Not giving them your business is a protest. A sit-in is a photo op. And it gives the owners undue attention.

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Tim McNally

11:58 am on Friday, September 14, 2012

We either have "free speech" or we don't. I may agree with your comments or not but I will stand up for your right to make them. Other than screaming "Fire !" in a movie house when there is none. . . I am going to defend your right to free speech. I think trying to control "hate speech" is an attempt taking away that right. Those who want to "control" our rights are just one step away from curtailing them. Your "hate speech" may be my heart felt opinion.

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Rich "The Equalizer" Pellegrino

3:37 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012

Hmmm Vorant...it appears your words could equally apply to the "Right"---the problem with labeling :-). To me the lesson of life is to find the middle way, but first you have to be willing to listen to and learn from everyone and to do that one must not think that he has all the truth and nothing but the truth. That is the definition of extremism and fanaticism. Let's all try to learn from each other rather than staying in one camp or the other. I try to learn from the Tea Party, the Black Panther party and from all in between to see their perspectives. That is, I believe, what can make this country great again because it certainly will never dominated by one race, culture, religion, political idea again with the great blending and unity in diversity which is our strength.

Tim McNally

12:11 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012

Louis Farakahn, Al Sharpton, Rev. Wright have all deeply offended me. I believe they are as racist as the KKK. But if came to a fight to defend their rights, count me in. During the 60's I marched for the rights of black people now I feel as though I may have to pick my signs back up and march to preserve my own rights as a retired, white male.

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Rich "The Equalizer" Pellegrino

1:52 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012

Tim, I invite to you our Cobb Coalition meetings and you will see that as a retired, white male you still have a lot to do to enlighten your own people much less to defend the still very racist system that the people who have offended you simply refuse to deny. The overwhelming majority of people of color agree with the those you mentioned so it may be time to take stock of the fact that your experience is not and will never be that of people of color in this country so the best you can say is "I don't know but I can only assume that that is your experience and I empathize with you". Otherwise, no matter what side of the struggle or aisle or viewpoint, you will be guilt of the inherent arrogance of the white race who still thinks somehow that we are better.

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Vorant1

3:22 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012

The squawking, whining left isn't interested in anything but total domination.over those who don't hold their perverse, re-distributionist, anti-American worldview. Makes them no better than the rabid Islamist in my book.

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Oscar G.

8:54 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012

Aaannd there you have it folks!
Vorant1 just summed up the very thing I was pointing to earlier.
Once we as a community accept the behavior exhibited by the Mulligan's owners, it opens the door for every flavor of hate, rhetoric, bigotry and prejudice people can come up with!
Thank you for so brilliantly displaying the utter ignorance of our Cobb County neighbors, Vorant1!

Curious Neighbor

12:36 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012

Freedom of speech and written word, yes.
BOYCOTT AND USE FREEDOM OF SPEECH TO LET THE BUSINESS AND LARGER ATLANTA COMMUNITY KNOW MANY IN COBB COUNTY FIND IT DEEPLY DISTURBING AND WANT OUR CHILDREN TO GROW UP IN AN INCLUSIVE, WELCOMING COMMUNITY, YES, ALSO.

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Rich "The Equalizer" Pellegrino

2:02 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012

It always gets me when a group of white folk write on these blogs telling black folk and other people of color that they should or shouldn't do this or be offended, etc, etc. Can't you see how arrogant and ignorant that is when you don't have a clue of their experience in this country, which is still so racist in its judicial system, hiring and promoting system, law enforcement, housing, and on and on. White folk, repeat after me: I am privileged in the U.S.A. and I have no experience of what it is like to be shnned, oppressed, targeted, jailed, killed... simply because of the color of my skin. I can never have that experience and I have no knowledge of it so I should not tell others who have how to act, how to react, what to do or not do...all that I can do is humbly listen and learn. Then, and only then, when I have spent a lot of time, sitting at their feet and learning and listening, and once I am trusted as a true friend and brother, then I can offer my humble advice." (If you are not willing to do the above your opinion is virtually worthless when it comes to racial matters.

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Vorant1

3:35 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012

Richard go peddle your La Raza propaganda elsewhere, you do nothing but play on fears and ignorance of those less informed. But that has always been the modus operandi of leftist stooges, a rattle snake is more honest, at least it doesn't BS you before it strikes and poisons its victim(s).....in this case society.

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Oscar G.

9:05 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012

Richard has a very valid point Vorant1.
Why would you even attempt to dismiss someone's experience?
When you OBVIOUSLY haven't had that experience yourself?
Until you have been discriminated against for your skin color, your race/creed/gender/sexual orientation/religion..ANYTHING..but most especially those things you have ZERO control over, you haven't a leg to stand on!

Why don't you stop attempting to use this forum as a platform to spew your right wing rhetoric and vitriole and stick to the topic..which really isn't about what YOU think of Liberals, Blacks, or Rattle Snakes either.

Hate speech is a true enemy of a free society.

Doubt me?
Go watch old reels of Hitler as he told a struggling Germany that he knew
who was to blame for their problems, and how he had a plan to bring them back
to their former glory!

(Where have I heard THAT recently? Hmmmm...)

We know how all THAT, which seemed innocuous enough in the beginning, turned out.

Those who forget the world's history are doomed to repeat it!
Just don't expect all of us to go down with you.

Cobb County Resident

2:14 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012

Just to clarify - the right to free speech protects you from GOVERNMENT infringement on your right to speak your mind. It does not protect you from your fellow citizens disagreeing with you. The restaurant has the right to put whatever it wants on its sign (within certain legal limits, e.g., no yelling fire in a crowding movie theater) and citizens who disagree with the restaurant's message have the right to protest. Unless the government forces the restaurant to take down the sign, the restaurant's freedom of speech is not being infringed upon.

In addition, for those of us who understand the history of racism in our country, I find it very disingenuous for others to assert that this latest sign is not racist.

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Hard

2:32 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012

@Cobb Co Resident-
Who asserted that the sign is not racist?

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Observer

2:57 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012

Yes, those who object to the sign have a right to protest it. But not on the property of the owner. They can march up and down the street on public property as long as they do not interfere with the operation of the business or other businesses nearby or pose a threat to safety and comply with applicable nuisance ordinances.

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Cobb County Resident

3:35 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012

@Hard
Check out the comments under the original article regarding this matter on September 11.

Mike - Smyrna

3:36 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012

After the sit-in and we all liquor up – Lets march down to the library and burn a few books. Don't forget that the women must walk behind the men.

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Cobb County Resident

3:39 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012

@Observer
You are correct. If the participants of the sit-ins violate the law, they should be arrested. Some people believe deeply enough in what they are doing that they are willing to be arrested. Martin Luther King, Jr. comes to mind.

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Rich "The Equalizer" Pellegrino

3:39 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012

Observer...by your standard there would never have been a civil rights movement and we would still be stuck with Jim Crow. There is always a place for non-violent, civil disobedience, as demonstrated by Dr. King whose movement never had to fire a shot to bring about great change.

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Observer

4:28 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012

Richard, do you ever get tired of wearing that hair shirt?

The standard which I advocate is entirely in line with non-violent, civil disobedience. No one is saying that there isn't a right to protest. The issue is that your right to protest doesn't triumph the rights of others. You don't have the right to go onto private property to protest, that is trespassing and is a violation of civil law. Also you don't have the right to impede others as they go about their business either.

You also seem to have a problem distinguishing between stereotyping, which is what the Mulligan's sign is doing and racism, which is the belief that members of another race are inferior.

Rich "The Equalizer" Pellegrino

4:43 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012

Thank you for correcting me Observer....I quite agree with all that you said (except the reference to "hair shirt" which is misplaced I believe, depending on how you use it). Your technical definition is correct, I believe.
However regarding the difference between stereotyping and racism there is a fine line and we must admit, in this society (and really in the entire world), that most of us, including people of color, have been brainwashed to believe that people of color are inferior to others, or conversely, that people of light skin are superior to those of darker skin. In all such ingrained habits the first step to healing is to come out of denial and admit the habit--we have been habitually believing and practicing that myth of superiority/inferiority for eons and it is not going to change overnight with the end of Jim Crow, advent of Civil Rights, or the election of a "Black" President (who is mixed like most of us). Every discussion then must be framed in that light and until America and Americans comes to grip with that it will continue to slide away from its destiny, though the mere fact of genetics will eventually cure it because we will be a racially mixed society ultimately (and eventually admit it). But intelligent beings don't have to wait for that and can begin to progressively heal the divides by honest and kind dialogue, not by epithets from either side. Our Cobb Coalition is trying to facilitate that process here...feel free to join us.

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Tim McNally

6:55 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012

Mr. Pellegrino: If you are a student of the 60's civil rights movement you will remember the Freedom rider who stepped off the Freedom bus first in Birmingham. The young, white minister was beaten savagely. . . almost to death.
His is not the only case. I and many other white people have earned the right to speak out against the New Racism practiced by left wing minorities who think they, alone, fought against the injustices of the past.

My grandmother came to this county from Ireland and saw signs in New York that were anti Irish. When my Great Grandfather took a job in the Idaho mines . . . Irish Catholics were not allowed to live in the city limits of Wallact, Idaho.

I hate to sound rude but the Civil Rights laws of 60's were enacted years ago. Black politicians, ministers and religous bigots like Farakanh, Sharpton & Jesse Jackson will never allow our country to heal. . . . In 1865 slaves were freed, 1965 laws were passed to further set blacks "free". After almost another 50 years, of listening to many black leaders continually blame white people for their current plight.. . . I really wonder why I even bothered to pick up a sign and carry it in the Civil rights marches in Chicago & Kansas City !

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Miss Philly

9:12 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012

Tim McNally, you are very well spoken. I think you've just summed it all up perfectly. Those people always say they've moved on but seem to rehash the past, over and over. There's a reason they call it the past. Thx for your comment.

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Rich "The Equalizer" Pellegrino

3:17 am on Sunday, September 16, 2012

Mr McNally, Your past efforts are laudable however not if you think by defending Black Americans in the past you somehow have the right or have earned the vision to know what is better for them than they know for themselves: that is just another manifestation of white arrogance. If you have really listened to and walked with Black Americans then you would know that their struggle against racism did not end in 1965 or with Dr. King's death and therefore unfinished work to dismantle the entire racist system, not just the elimination of Jim Crow, albeit, an important step.. Would you not complain loudly too if you and your family were arrested, charged, sentenced, executed disproportionately just because of the color of your skin--or if you were not hired, or fired, or paid less because of the same. These are life and death matters that you treat so lightly and are very real right here in Cobb and everywhere in this country for people of color. And the reason why they still exist is because of the denial of people like you and others on this blog who turn a blind eye and continually blame the victims and their leaders for complaining and trying to do something about it. Just because you conveniently retired from defending their rights doesn't mean others should. If you would like to rejoin the effort feel free to write me at pilgrim1@mindspring.com--we are doing plenty in Cobb to change these dynamics and are making progress, however slowly.

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Rich "The Equalizer" Pellegrino

3:23 am on Sunday, September 16, 2012

Miss Philly, read my reply to Mr McNally but to sum it up: the racism of the past is not over and anyone who believes so is white and in denial--right here in Cobb and everywhere people of color are discriminated against by every segment of society--law enforcement, employment, housing, etc etc--and if you don't know that it is because you are white and all you can really say is: Oh, I don't or didn't know that. How can I help change it? Otherwise, there is really nothing you or anyone can say which is not arrogant and prejudicial when it comes to the experience and facts of living black in America. (And if you doubt my assertions I will be happy to provide facts--statistics--provided by law enforcement and other agencies right here in Cobb.)

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milo o'toole

5:49 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Tim

Good points! Bias and prejudice exist everywhere and has since man first walked the earth. There are always muckrakers and pot stirrers who make their way through life by playing advocate for victims who may not exist. Richard, for example, who is an advocate for those who violate our laws. He wants anyone who comes here to be able to pollute the wage scale and put our fellow citizens out of work. He completely fails to see how he is helping to destroy the fabric of the American middle class. In fact, I believe he gets paid for doing it.

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milo o'toole

5:54 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Richard, as an American, you are allowed to wallow in the belief that you are God's gift to an ailing world. Meantime, the efforts of folks like you have not completely succeeded yet. BTW what do you call a person who favors people of another country over his fellow citizens? Hmmm?

Mulligan's has the right to display their signs. I do think I will drop in some evening just to see if their burgers are as good as some claim.

I'm still trying to think of what we call someone who defends people from another country over his own people,

Melinda

9:28 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012

Whatever! I've never eaten there but after all this BS I sure do plan on going there for one of those good hamburgers & support their freedom of speech. Based on the sign that is posted in this article I never thought Obama was a fried chicken, collard green kinda guy. I on the other hand am & I am white and these foods have been a staple in my upbringing.

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I Am Correct

10:01 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012

The right answer to this situation is "That sign is utterly stupid. I will not patronize that place because I don't want my money going to a bunch of racists."

Nothing else. No whining about "freedom of speech." No crying about "why are we so PC?"

Also - it's not a "liberal/conservative" thing. It's a "Racists are stupid/I make excuses for racists" thing.

Do me a favor: if you're making excuses for this nonsense - knock it off. You're embarrassing the rest of us.

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Pam J

4:04 pm on Saturday, September 15, 2012

On a side note - Kiri is leaving the "Patch" tomorrow. I hope that all of us insane people didn't push her over the edge! Best wishes, Kiri.

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Stephanie

10:08 pm on Sunday, September 16, 2012

Interesting as to how miss Philly refers to others as "those people". But more interesting is to how a lot of people's solution is to just ignore it. Really? When has that ever worked? We can protest crematoriums, landfills, sex toy shops, and even Wal-Mart's being in or built in neighborhoods, but offensive signs should just be ignored? By ignoring a problem you are accepting the behavior. This is America, when have we ever ignored anything anybody else ever did whether it was right or wrong. Personally I think a sit in would bring too much attention to this place that does look like a hole in the wall. I think the best route would be sure they are not in violation of any city codes and to see if the health department can visit them every week.

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Callen

8:59 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

We will never grow up as a society so long as we refuse to grant others basic human dignity. Little children don't see race; they see individuals. We *teach* them division, fear, prejudice, hatred. Illegal or not, Free Speech or not, signs and speech like what's been put out by Mulligan's encourage people to see others as less than human, of less worth, as a label and a stereotype, not an individual. I see human beings to be judged on their own individual merits, flaws, actions... what do you see? If you can look another person in the eye and judge them, not for themselves, but by stories and labels and what other people did or did not do... how can you look yourself in the eye, in the mirror? My Daddy told me once, "Never do anything that means you can't look yourself in the eye in the mirror of a morning---and if you do such a thing, do your best to make it right, or you'll be ducking mirrors for the rest of your life." I oppose these signs because they belittle and label people, and perpetuate fear, hatred, and scorn. I oppose them because they are *wrong*, and they do a wrong, and they create more wrong in this world.

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Rich "The Equalizer" Pellegrino

8:32 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Very true Stephanie & Callen. Let's view people as human and treat them as equals Those who put down others, especially a whole group, are denying their own humanity and really just don't like or love themselves--classic bullies. How does one stop a bully---first stop their bullying behaviour (tough love, saying "no") and then forgive and love them by teaching them how to love themselves. Why not promote the good things about yourselves, Mulligans, rather than put down others--or is it that you don't see any good in your own race, restaurant, lives, etc
Here is what I advocate as a solution: let's all suggest to Mulligans some good slogans that uplift rather than put down--they can be humorous or whatever. Church signs do it all the time. Or, they can simply promote their special hamburgers. Surely they can find something creative which is positive--if not, let's help them. Here's one: "Bikers Rally to help the homeless veterans--10% of all purchases benefit the veterans." (My father, a life long police officer, always said "you can catch more flies with honey than with sh_t or vinegar.")

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Rich "The Equalizer" Pellegrino

8:39 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

And Milo, "my people" are and will always be "human beings". That's right, I consider humans over Americans, whites, blacks, Italians, Irish, Christian, Muslim,etc. And in that belief I am backed up by not only science (genetics prove we are all one race and at the most 55th cousin of each other) , religion (all equal children of one creator), and the founding documents of this country ("All people are created equal"--note, it doesn't say--"All Americans"). So my role and that of human rights advocacy orgs is to be the "great equalizer"--that is, whenever one individual or group gets the notion that they are somehow superior to another, and acts on that belief to put down another, then it is time to "equalize". Now let's apply that to the undocumented immigrants that you and others here like to put down because you think that you are somehow better than they are by inventing these imaginary harms that they are doing or did.

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Rich "The Equalizer" Pellegrino

8:54 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Re: undocumented immigrants and you:
1) they broke only a minor, civil law, not even a criminal law to come or stay here (hmmm, do you break any laws?)
2) your ancestors and mine, were either illegal immigrants to this country, or were considered so by the dominant group of WASPS at the time (italians were called wops or "without papers", and many came here illegally,etc); even worse, people of color were considered less than human in my lifetime. (Hmmm, seems like history repeating itself--when will we learn and grow up?)
3) you, I and everyone writing or reading here conspired to invite the current 12million undocumented immigrants here and looked the other way to provide cheap labor in order to maintain our standard of living (yes, every major corporation and many smaller ones, and every government entity did so, and in a capitialist, democratic society, that means every citizen participated in this however directly or indirectly)--and now, that our economy has tanked, not due to their hard and productive labor, but due to our own excesses, we want to blame and scapegoat them and send them back. (Hmmm, seems like history repeating itself after slavery and JimCrow--when will we learn and grow up?)
I could go on but remember every time you get the urge to think yourself somehow superior to these immigrants, or to anyone else, these words of the Equalizer and repeat after me: "I am no better or worse than anyone else and by uplifting others I uplift myself".

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Rich "The Equalizer" Pellegrino

9:06 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Oh, Milo, there is at least one point I agree with you on, that as Americans under the delusion of "American exceptionalism" that are somehow God's gift to and the savior of the world. Been there, tried that, and screwed it up. We have to first get our own backyard in order and the main task at home is not the economy, although that is certainly a part of it, but to learn to value our true exceptionalism as a nation and that is our cultural and racial diversity as the melting pot or salad bowl of the world. This is a model of unity in diversity and is where we do stand out. In order to do this, I have to begin by looking in the mirror, and us whites, who have an inbred sense of false superiority and privilege, have to learn humility and the willingness to learn from and understand those of other cultures who are now a major part of the American mix. That is what this whole Mulligans' exercise is about and the basis of my comments relating to it--if the Blacks are hurt by what Mulligan's is doing that should be enough for all, especially those who are not Black to respect their feelings and perspective, especially in light of black/white relations in the near past here in Cobb, to ask Mulligans to stop doing it and to help them find ways to promote themselves and their "culture" in a positive way. That can really be the only reasonable response from white people, who have no clue what blacks have and are still going through.

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